Illusion or Reality | Ishwar Puri

Chicago, IL

Video Description: He welcome everyone attending the short notice meeting in bad weather conditions outside. He thought view outside was very beautiful ‘bad’ weather. He said how good and bad go together. He talked about an email he received from NZ from someone who was initiated by a Master many years ago and practicing his meditation with due diligence and with beautiful results and radiation form of his master and other inner experiences. He ran into another book and video of Baba Fakir Chand. He talked Fakir Chand’s experience in the military and 3 of his disciples were surrounded by enemies and prayed to their Baba Ji at the last time in their life…at that time Baba Ji appeared standing right in front of them…and said don’t worry there is a small tree bush and under there is a tunnel and use that to escape and I will see you…he then disappeared. They looked behind went through tunnel and escaped. Master know nothing they come as a projection of one’s self. Therefore, why master appears outside is to generate kind of faith to discover who we are to go within.

People questioned other masters back then. As it happens, Baba Ji met Baba Fakir Chand several times as neighbors and good friend of Baba Ji’s father. The reason Fakir Chand said was people follow master…they don’t do meditation therefore he over emphasized on what he said. The truth is PLM is inside us not outside but we cannot see him therefore the projected master outside functions exactly like master inside and yet he is just a active shadow outside. At all times true master is within us…he emphasized this point he knew nothing so not to follow teachers blindly. The radiant form of the master is inside us not outside but he resembles one outside so much therefore its difficult to say which one should we follow. Fact is we should follow the inside without the outside? No way…therefore we have to follow a physical living master who can talk to us, guide us and tell us all the details, help us to go within and after he has done that we find the permanent master friend inside us. So there is a role of master both inside and outside. Outside master is projected from inside and there is no difference between the two. This physical world is a reality while we are here as this is the only reality we know. Of course when we sleep…we create a temporarily reality known as a dream. When we wake up to higher reality this physical world becomes as unreal as a dream. Therefore, its important to remember while we are here…only master who can teach us what to do who is outside and is able to help us to go within to make a seeker find his true reality. While we have a PLM in our life we follow what he says…follow his instructions to the point to manifest himself in us. He talked about his GM while his master is alive to manifest his radiant form within. He is with you at all times…he maybe sitting beside you, you can talk to him. Its a great friendship…friendship that has no comparison with any other friendship. Once PLM has initiated us….he will never leave us till we go back to our true-home will be there for all times.

He talked about astral plane which is similar to physical plane…our astral body has much longer life (several thousand years) its more permanent and astral world has been going on much longer…more distraction there than here. Lot of people reach that stage think that they have reached their true home. He shared a story of a beautiful young girl that Baba Ji was staring at her instead of the master. He was hoping she would turn around…but she did not turn around at all her gaze was at the white bearded man (GM). She had such amazing feeling for master…he had great respect for her who got initiated. The master gave few letters in English. He talked about his grand-father (Bai Bishan Das Puri), he said to Ishwar Ji to read this specific letter. That girl said she had achieved great success in meditation…I have already seen your radiant form but my mind was so distracted in the astral plane I didn’t want to go anywhere. Baba Ji great respect for her- and she even wrote a book!

The self is unit of consciousness and powers the mind, astral, physical, power all experience we have…soul is life-force yet mind can create time and space, separation. Truth is there is only one…we are that one. The separation is creating rebirth, need for karma as separation in time and space create events, something now something then and there we get cause and effect and creates law of karma…its a mental projection but we take it real and get caught up in it. Mind is experience of time, space and causation…above mind karma does not exist we go home. Therefore, this experience which was created just for entertainment but it should have never tied us down. WE got so tied up we don’t know where is our home and home to return. Fortunately, some of us, who were afraid not to be lost in experience…made a little arrangement with ourselves…if we get too engrossed in experience we should have some key with us and that key will help us open that door inside us…that key is PLM that we arranged.

He talked about WHY LIVING MASTER but who are not here? Why living master physically? What’s the big deal about living and non-living master. The answer is simple- a living master is one who can say NO THAT’s YOUR MIND. Therefore emphasis is on PLM…what is the characteristics…he is just like us. Potentially we are ALL PLMs…every human being can be PLM only difference is the level of awareness. Its a big catch-22 a PLM comes in and we are taught according to our mind’s thinking…for a while…till we discover there is no teaching required…keep mind out of way….the whole principle of spiritual journey is how to overcome mind’s obstacles. He talked about guilt (32min~) and law of punishment and reward will kick in and wait for punishment to come. Then we do something nice and deserve a reward…and reward comes…this system of carrying with us morality where we continuously judging us and others this is what is leading to punishment and reward. Morale code is changing all the time…individually our own conscience builds system of judgement of this is good and this is bad…we build seeds of punishment in our subconscious and this is law of karma. Karma traps us into an ongoing experience of being over here. When we try worship without a living master…we are worship only our own mind. A person who is not you at this time, who is seperate from you and is NOT speaking from his mind and above it and is addressing to your soul is a PLM…they show some aspect that are different from all other people we know. Knowing all judgements we make because of mind does not judge (unless he is a judge LOL), he has compassion and love for others. PLM is not looking at our body or karma he is looking at our soul…he has built-in love for us, which is so strong which is incomparable…as its unconditional. Why? Because he is not operating from physical but spiritual self and addressing the spiritual self. The feeling we get when we know a PLM…he is touching something in us i.e. our soul. Therefore, unconditional love is unique thing. He explained about Gurmukhs and Manmukhs.

He talked about lust, anger, ego, attachment are indeed necessary in order to pay off our karma…we use negative things to pay off karma. i.e. negative things are needed to survive in cause and effect system. PLM uses mind as needed to develop language to communicate but he is not used by the mind. We don’t think we make our minds think but we don’t separate ourselves from the mind as we are using it as a machine which thinks. We don’t realise its our consciousnesses that makes our mind think. We came in this world equipped with thinking mind which could reason, to create sense perception. Even when we lose these covers, the internal covers become our real self. Without PLM we could never get out of it. Thinking would have kept us within the domain of the mind. We have the appearance of PLM as ‘The Key’ to escape from the karmic circle we are trapped in. It’s unconditional love pulls us above the mind….mind has its own function. Soul does things without using mind. Mind uses sensing (sense perceptions), it picks up and makes sense of it they become meaningful things for our thoughts. Second thing it does is thinking – in words and sometimes in images. Thinking of the mind is so important its like heart beat. Thinking stops, mind stops- it thinks about perception of things it has picked and made sense of. (51 min~) Third thing is making logical conclusions (deductive and inductive logic). These 3 functions all takes place in time and space.

Beyond these three functions is LOVE, BEAUTY and INTUITION which do not need time and space. These are 3 functions of soul.

PLM operates from the soul- he draw us with Love, which pulls us beyond the mind. While we are still busy understanding him, he will give us teaching to ‘struggle’ by doing more meditation till we get tired…until we get our own eperience we believe we have to work hard to become spiritual.

He talked two cute stories of Daryai Lal Kapoor who was an initiate of the PLM who became doorman of the GM. The story is about him going to a hill-station (Dalhousie) for doing his meditation. Meditation is only for the mind- Love & Devotion is the key โค Baba Ji shared another story about maternal grand-mother who love praying idols in her home temple. His father (Lekh Raj) wanted his mother-in-law to also get initiated so spoke with GM. GM asked her to come and see him in the dera…she heard couple of his discourses and then got initiated. He talked about Guru Granth Sahib (1hr 6min~) which include teachings of all 10 master and GM’s visit to temple where he bows to the book. GM emphasizes on living person as teacher. PLM can come to our level and create a feeling of TRUE friendship, that is why its nice to know spiritual path but don’t forget spiritual path is a path of love and devotion. He talked about Shakey pizzas being a weakness of his LOL (1hr 13min).

(1hr 15min~) After pizza break he had a Q&A session, why 3 worlds of the mind were created if we were living happily in our true home? Almost 90% souls are still in true home! Only 10% came here. Reason is our reality our consciousness of our true home is ocean of consciousness building block is that. Its a power that we can be aware of anything- that means we want to have an experience consciousness can be conscious, be real of that experience.

Consciousness can create experience of many within the one.

We are select number of souls who chose to come here…experience here is opposite of our true home. The principal of creation is based up on pairs of opposite (duality) prevails throughout creation. If we had no opposite of anything we won’;t have experience of the opposite. As an example, experience happiness we have to experience what sadness is like. The pair of opposite is the greatest principal. Our true home is not world of duality so how do we experience there when there is no duality …by creation of the world of duality here that becomes opposite of our totality/ true-home. That is why in Anurag Sagar “Ocean of Love” by Kabir he talked about Hans and Buns. The more intense negative experience the more intense positive experience…why creating a torture situation/ experience? (1hr 23min Reason is positive is real ALWAYS this is creative illusion. We like to have real experience…a shadow is never like us unless we make shadow like ourselves. People say this creation is illusion…this is a actually a creation of reality of us. He talked about dream being real. We can shift our consciousness from wake to dream like state etc. Why am I talking to you and I know this is all dream- yet I speak to you why? Answer was given- Vivekananda said something in World Congress of Religion in Chicago. He spoke for two days on third day he said I have been telling you all these 3 days this world is illusion/ maya…then so am I unreal! There is a difference…the rest of the dream is keeping you here this part of the dream which I am I am putting you back into the reality to wake you up. What is role of master…he is that part of dream we created to wake us up. Only when we see entire creation and creator…we find perfection ๐Ÿ™‚ โค

(1hr 30min~) What’s the beauty of it? Its achievable to us in this dream while in this body…we have points in this body give us out of the body experience. Behind the eyes there are points there are energy centers in us…when we touch our attention there they open us states in the wakeful state…that’s an amazing miracle by itself. He talked about experience of free will and then find out it was all per-recorded. We look at all the negative things and wake up …thank God it’s just a dream โค Its suppose to effect us as its real. So we create successive layers of reality and yet they are successive layer of illusions…its a misleading word. He talked about a famous dancer (Sarabhai), with a dance school she was a spiritual seeker who asked Baba Ji an interesting question. Maya does not mean illusion…it means here is a cup of water and I am going to drink this water…it tasted good…now I go to higher stage cup disappeared…taste is still with me. How come? Taste is still in my memory…in a dream we have a pleasant dream enjoy it…we wake up…nobody there but pleasure still there…how come? Maya does not mean this glass is unreal…what we see glass is unreal but experience of glass is not unreal even if glass disappears…maya is not pure illusion…material things and people giving us experience and we wake up they are not there but experience still there! IF we go still higher in deeper level of consciousnesses, it was the experience of drinking water that made the glass and water (wowzer!). A PLM who is speaking to us from direct experience…the difference between talking PLM and a learned person where latter has read from books whereas PLM is talking directly from his experience. A PLM is aware of all the levels at all times. He speaks to several people, several souls at different levels. He is constantly aware of the entire show…his work is very different from a teacher. PLM is not a teacher…who is he? He is the BEST true friend…best beloved, best person where we can experience true love to take you back home. Video ended with earlier version of the dera photo.

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