Different Kinds of Gurus and Sant Satguru | Ishwar Puri (Part 1 of 2)

The reason for having these monthly meetings is on the spiritual path our mind does not stay too long. We get inspired in these meetings…we go home and start meditation and that great euphoria lasts a few day. Have a Satsang every day but at least once a week…then once a month should be the minimum. Someone asked GM how often we should come for your darshan. It is necessary in the company of the truth… Satsang. What is the difference between sathguru, sadhguru etc? Word guru (a sanskrit word) it roots say Gu ru….Gu means a shadow and ru means once that can remove it. A teacher that teaches us this knowledge is a guru. A spiritual context guru is far more than a teacher. It is considered almost equal to a creator. There is a guru mantra in Hinduism. The ultimate satpurush resides in a human being…in Bible, its considered the Word made into flesh could be expressed as a creative power. In the beginning was the Word and word was with God and Word was God. We realise that we are talking word made flesh that even created God resides in a Guru in the form of a human being, where they carry the totality of consciousness within them. These experiences generate reality and what looks real in one stage is not real when you go to a higher level of consciousness. Ultimately you discover you were never separate from the ultimate power where everything took place in all levels took place from there and within that area of experience…you discover all realities and all illusions are there together. Huge difference between awareness of levels of consciousness and totality of consciousness. When we talk of a PLM, Sant Sath Guru, we are talking of such a human being who has that sort of awareness. PLM is carrying awareness of the totality at the very time he is an ordinary human being among us.

12min- Supposing we are in Sachkhand…all there…are we one or many? We are one…experiencing the many that means within one we are many. Ocean is one but the drops in the ocean are many but they are not separate from the ocean. A soul is never separated from totality it only contracts its awareness of a small part of the totality of consciousness which resides in the totality of consciousness. Experience of many and one are joined…why though? What is the purpose of drop…it is to experience the closeness and love of its own totality. If love is of true nature…which I believe it is…the ability to experience the other is love…true love is the unconditional experience of that kind and to generate that sort of experience we have many in one. It’s a great reason for creation for many! This experience of love never leaves us even if we are right here. Mind is empowered by soul…the mind began to work…it starts thinking and thinking ideas, rationalization and we have a variety of experiences of events in time and space and we introduce a new law…law of cause and effect…also known as the law of karma. Soul wears mind (causal body), sense perception (astral body) and physical body. The most interesting part is when you have all these bodies put on you…then you are an individual entity and consider yourself with your physical body only forgetting those sensory experiences are merely cover up on yourself. Thinking is a great wonderful thing…its a great gift…but we have started identifying ourself only with the body. The physical body is the last cover we put on…the 4th one (soul) is very subtle and is beyond the mind. That is why with these covers we forget how they all operate. We attribute all with the body but how we can describe love with the body. It comes directly from the soul.

People say God is Love…therefore if within God souls can be created as part of God then the experience of Love takes place right there.

Ishwar Puri Ji

20min- Mind a thinking machine is using it to destroy the basic experience of love…we are using covers to explain and then destroying it. That is why we have another form of experience that belongs to our consciousness. Then we have intuitive knowledge in knowing an awareness that is not coming from thinking. We all have it. It comes from our own soul therefore we are now in a state to have great adventure with wonderful equipment. The ability to love, have true knowledge, enjoy intuitive knowledge and love via bliss and inner happiness and we close it with mind so mind can share it, speak and communicate with other units of consciousness. But we started getting used by our mind! Its a wonderful computer we became slaves of our own mind….mind tells us what to do because we could not identify with our ownself. I think that’s me is not correct but I am life and I use my mind to think…its my machine to use…we forgot that and started to identify with the machine. The sense perception to enlarge the scope of perception and yet we began to separate it from the mind and then we put on this body through which mind and astral self is operating which all is empowed by our soul we take this physical body as our own self.

27min- Largest organ in the body is not that’s taught is bacteria! It is heavier than all the 3 organs heart, stomach and liver together. How the body is the most wonderful thing every created. I am stuck by the structure of the physical body and works autonomously. And then working of the sense perception, when you see things we don’t realize we created the time we see it and the mind’s creative power creates perception. We have become kings of the stage and think we are kind all the time…its not our permanent role…when we shed this costume we discover who we are and sense perception. If you take away these eyes you will still see…there is proof we could never see anything in a dream or imagine anything. We are using these eyes and have a vision of anything we like. Physical eyes cannot see unless you have sensory eyes. You don’t have to wait till you die to know this is true you can pretend to be dead! You can do it by doing same thing when the physical body actually die. The scattered attention gives us the experience of this body and the physical world. If we can find a method of withdrawing our attention it doesn’t take long to find out its flowing from head behind the eyes.

36min- If we withdraw attention, taught by someone who has done it, progressively we forget where our body is and eventually forget we have a body and yet we are still there. Our sense perception open up…in dreams, we don’t wear glasses. Sense perception grow to a remarkable extent. Body is covering us and only uses a partial part of our senses. Sense perception is separate from this physical body but is similar to it. Sense perception take us up and we have a totally new experience. If we do the same thing again within the astral body…withdraw completely you are still there in a much more real way and there you discover your lifeforce is only covered with a creative mind…there you discover who time and space were created and destinies were laid out. You are still tied up in the mind and leaving mind behind is most difficult part and cannot be done with any method of withdrawal of attention. All heavens are in space and time in the astral plane…even hells exist and higher level has universal mind and discover that is the ultimate…you cannot separate soul from mind with any kind of meditation. Attention is not a spiritual but mental thing. How can you use mind to go over the mind. People confuse astral plane with sachkhand. There is no space and time where our soul belongs. If you are in the 3 realms you go into cycle of rebirth over and over again because all these forms of life not necessarily human has a birth and time of death. This small time is the age of this physical body…the astral time or time of sensory system is 1000-3000 physical years of time. The mind which is carrying all our karma to generate new experiences…it has limited time about 3 million years. Imagine if you go only to these levels of experiences do not go out of trap of repeating these cycle of birth and death. You must use something that lies beyond. None of these work. When I was talking of the guru…in spiritual tradition is God himself in human form because of his awareness of the totality.

45min- We have given names of that God who creates astral, and causal plane. We call him all kinds of names. It’s not necessary to follow one religion to know the creator but we haven’t discovered the source of our own mind. Yoga has not given any knowledge of God. All centers of awareness lies within the head and brain area only nothing below. What causes imperfection is the mind. Mind divides everything and by doing so it makes picture imperfect. Its process of knowledge is based on analysis breaking things open and lags process of synthesis. Mind cannot discover the total and remains imperfect…all these 3 worlds are imperfect. These regions are producing masters take you to higher awareness but up to mind but PLMs who take you beyond the mind. Only process we can cross the mind is something that belongs to the soul…LOVE…only if you are pulled by unconditional love you can cross the mind barrier. Even listening to sound goes there. When you experience that love and are devoted to that love…your method of spiritual life…you can cross the mind. Even among PLMs they can take us beyond the soul…they tell us even soul is also a cover as they are individuated souls…you are always part of the total. Those who take you to that point….you are the ultimate creative power…those we call Sathgurus. Sadhgurus take you to parbrahm beyond the mind to the soul level. Other gurus Brahm gyani gurus take you to the casual plane and other only to astral plane and other yogis and yogeawares. There are souls having different forms at all these levels. Physical level we see people with soul…same soul…identifical we see plants outside each one has same soul…trillions bacterias inside us same soul. Soul is the power of consciousness and of life these are forms being created. Soul has no karma never had. Soul it just made mind alive and mind created karma and carried it.

57min- We picked up our own karma never belonged to us. When we put on the costume we think it’s our own experience. While we are wearing that costume of mind we are bound by the law of karma. It’s your mind’s karma being played out by the sensory body. Why wait for 100 years to die…or 3000 years for astral body to die…or millions for mind to die when you can find all that today wearing all the costumes as they are. If we have this ability why not try it out now and be happy forever that we are the soul and we are just playing on a big stage. We can switch our life from suffering to variety of experience, great show, great drama. It will change our experience not when we go back home but from tomorrow! That is why these PLMs that carry that awareness at all time…when they come and tell us that this is not the truth and is just a setup of high and low and the experience of becoming like your true-self. Man is created in the image of the creator. The creative power is just a creative power…only one thing is common…the creative power has the will to create and we have a will to decide. Creative willed all the show to take place in no time. We have a free will operating as if we can create our destiny. This is a common feature. Only human beings have it. Our ignorance is truly bliss as without knowing tomorrow is already placed. If someone says do you have free will… answer is yes…we exercise it every day. What is meant by this statement everything is predetermined. Do we believe in a creator who knows all? On theological ground free will is ruled out as God knows all. But we have experience of free will based up on ignorance of the future. When we decide in our head…choice making…somebody has already laid down how I will make a choice.

1hr7min- When we are ignorant of the future and when we feel and experience free will we can choose to follow a spiritual path. Because we are choosing now, it works. Question is do we have a free will or is it totally governed by God. That question is very tricky. Because when we say its our free will or God’s will looking like our free will…but who is God? God is our OWN totality in our TOTAL FORM! Therefore, there is no distinction between our and God’s free will. Only when we go to the highest level we discover that in us is no different. I was learning harmonium as a child…one of the songs said a drop is dressing the ocean and saying you are no different from me. Today I use that thought daily…the essence is the same. What a senseless thing drop has left the ocean but people told me soul is a drop from the ocean…separated trying very hard to go back home and struggling. I also began to struggle but then I thought this is useless struggle that if I am drop of water and I can appreciate my individualisation. But what will happen after I merge in the ocean…I will be finished as a drop…what will the ocean gain by one more drop…and that is the spiritual path! I was totally dismayed till real discovery came to me later…indeed I am a drop in the ocean but I never left the ocean…what I lost was an awareness that I am in the ocean and that I am playing a game. I was the ocean! That is the true spiritual path where I never left my true home and create a series of experiences you felt you are far away from your true home. That makes sense…now we are discovering our true self. We should be able to enlarge our awareness by removing the covers on us…and then we realize we were the makers of will in character we are sitting in now. Master Ji shared a goofy story of an Indian boy who goes to see a movie for the first time. The movie was prepared in advance in the causal plane. Imagine if you get this direct knowledge not by listening to me but by experiencing… wouldn’t life change automatically. You will be sitting in the audience smiling enjoying the movie. Do you know this is possible right here and does not require going into any retreats. It can be done progressively by simulating death of one body over another…by withdrawal of attention. Meditating of yourself means thinking about inside. Every religion can do it- Christian, Jews, Hindus can do it…nothing to do with religion at all and you discover putting your attention behind the eyes and asking who are you.

1hr20min- You are the one asking these questions…you are thinking mind and then you go further…who is empowering the mind to think and then you discover you are the soul. Of course you need practice because we have been moving in other directions taking reality outside not inside. When you withdraw your attention within…that’s the way to live and change your life. The big separation between religion and spirituality. As it happens, this spiritual path is the fundamental basis of all religions. If you study carefully, all scripture describes the same thing…truth can only be found inside. The Kingdom of God is found within not outside. So we have departed from spirituality which was the foundation of religion to external ceremonies. Practice your own faith but we don’t even study! Master Ji quoted Bulleh Shah near the end.

Religion promises things….spirituality says here and now!

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