Soul Uses the Mind to Have Experiences of Time and Space | Ishwar Puri (Part 2 of 2)

I got a message from India, Pune…in middle of night there…before the break friends I was talking to you about our true home and if there is no eagerness to go back…your time is not there yet. These PLMs, who I was talking about earlier who have level of awareness of all levels at all times. PLMs are ones aware of our true home. There goal is to make us exactly like them. When they accept us as a friend with a process called initiation or naam…such a person who is a human being like us but his perfection is in fact that his consciousness at all times is up to the true home even when he is sitting here. Therefore, such a person does not talk to us from memory…he is talking to us what is visible to him right there. If he is aware of totality surely he is aware of us. He is going to show us unusual things about our true home where we belong and where he will pull us with his unconditional love. Its a rare experience. When he comes and tells us what to do…is he appealing to our mind? Mind says nobody gets anything without doing anything. All prescription he gives is only for our mind but not for our soul. Our soul is seeking its origin at all times. Mind comes in the way. He doesn’t care how we will look or our karma, he doesn’t care about anything …all are same soul which he is experiencing while he is here. That is why his game is not to teach us anything. The mind’s function is analytical and break up things in pieces to understand. Its business is to understand but not to realise and trying to do so it breaks up things into pieces where as the soul wants unity. Since the mind is working for us including seeing that human we call PLM…therefore PLM comes and functions as an ordinary human being appealing to our mind. They prescribe meditation so we can go from one level of awareness to another. Only those who can reveal to us who we really are (i.e. soul) are considered as perfect living masters. They go beyond these levels and take us to spiritual regions. Adding mind to the soul is to create an experience of time and space and events and law of karma and that will create lifetime after lifetime. To put on sense perception (make seeing, hearing etc as separate experiences) is a function of another cover called astral body. To make it solidity of the reality that is the function of this last cover. When scientists tell us this is all space…its emptiness. When I was a graduate student in physics in the college…professor told me this world consists of atoms…all put together to make molecules and every molecule has atoms spreadout and atom has a nucleus with electrons orbiting around and if space was taken out from all atoms this planet will shrink to size of a football..very impressive. I came much later to Harvard University and I heard a talk by professor on nature of space (Einsteinian physics). The whole galaxy will become like a marble. All galaxies will put together will become an invisible point. We are all living in emptiness from physics perspective but point of metaphysics its all a creation of the mind. From soul you discover the whole thing was created with power of consciousness.

13min- When I was young, somebody described my spiritual journey as a journey of a drop of water from ocean living in isolation and wanted to go back to the ocean…and one day with help of these masters…for the drop to merge back into the ocean…I applied my mind on it this is a lose-lose situation I will lose myself and ocean will gain nothing and its not worth it. But I was wrong…many years later I understand although I was a drop I never left the ocean…I was the ocean I just contracted by awareness to a drop. Spiritual path began to make sense…its to expand your awareness. We identify ourself with the body, name is given to the body. What happens when we wake up…we discover we had several bodies and that was not our name therefore when we wake up we discover we are not the body. Its a chain set up by a wonderful mechanism by the law of cause and effect… the law of karma. Place all events on a timeline and bring consciousness to the timeline and there you are born. You never lived your previous when you first came so past life is paid out with present life and present life leads to future life. Therefore when you come for one life you have lived millions of past and future lives. That’s the trap. When you escape you escape from the whole thing…from the system that is why this timeline is created by the mind and only sustained by the mind to create an experience of time and space. When we rise above the mind it disappears. The soul uses the mind to experience time and space. When the soul gets tired it’s pulled out by an arrangement made before it came here and that arrangement at the right time in contact with another person a PLM whose consciousness is connected with totality and available to that soul that wants to go back. Master Ji shared a funny joke about a married couple. On the spiritual path we see disupts as different events planned for a show so the world is a play but we don’t see it because we are actors but we forget we are actors.

24min- Its only when we have gone beyond the mind that we can say that’s the soul…unit of consciousness. Even that is contracted awareness of totality. When awareness expands from there, we come across a person who is operating when we meet us from totality. And such a person is very rare. The truth is very few seekers of true home. Most of time we ask for worldy things and astral experiences. When we worship god who based in heaven which is in astral plane within time and space. Krishna told Udho about a little karma that law of karma is so strange that this ant was lord of heaven at one point. If we search for a master who is like ourselves how are we going to find him? He is exactly like us and we can’t find him. They will pull us not by showing their awareness but with power of love which comes right from true home. Meditation is a means to reach a point where no meditation is needed. Its not the end by itself and we develop which we call love and devotion. When we are looking for the truth beyond words finish on the way…sounds which last longer as there is resonance of the soul itself…it can be heard if you put your attention on yourself. Resonance cannot be heard you have to go by love and devotion…ultimate name of the game. I am telling you all this thing doesn’t look easy does it? I know its hard for me…must be hard for you…we try to meditate even simplest of things is so difficult…we try to repeat we are thinking of something else ๐Ÿ˜ฆ Then we try to bring those words…so we start thinking of the words thoughts goes away somewhere else…we fight with the mind…other thoughts come. We sit for hours (we sit for 15minutes but looks like a long time LOL)…what an experience of meditation…who will meditate! Its such an exhausting experience none of us will have patience to do so. People give us…therefore I should share a secret with you of alternative to meditation…if you find meditating difficult then do seva…service. Donate your time, serve yours master, people close to your master, serve anybody…one condition if its a service its not paid service…if you are expecting reward that doesn’t count. A service as an offering…to the master. Let me see if it works…its an offering without expecting a reward. In Bhagavad Gita…Krishna talked about karma yogi. You are giving your time…service can be of many ways- service with money (give money and its given), service of physical labor (work for somebody volunteer) and then there is service with your mind to meditate without any reward.

37min- Believe me the result will be same as good meditation. If you find withdrawal of meditation is difficult try these alternative ways. How can external ways can work like withdrawal of attention inside. Secret is when you give service without expectation its an act of surrender of the mind…its actually a high degree of meditation. The mind always expects some reward. When you do service…I was a very young boy this high…I wanted to do service for GM…I would use big fan and fan master. I still remember…after so many years holding that fan and that joy it gave me still gives me today. Just physical service. Today I am giving a talk here you might think I am trying to help you…I am doing a service to my master. It’s the same service which expects no reward except joy and bliss from it. All services are the same and depend on how you do it without expectation. The bliss of reward comes automatically. I like people would like to volunteer, when we have a larger gathering we need more seva via sevadars there one word of caution forget everything else other than doing service for the master. Just service for soul, and spirituality but not for what you will get from there. You don’t expect a reward service of master brings love of the master and ego pushes back. People who show-off as authoritative figure is not service (sadly happened a lot). Therefore, the maximum humility and kindness should be shown if you are given a position where you are being asked for regulate (which is necessary). Make sure don’t let the opportunity go over your heard and take it as remembering it I am doing it because my ego failed to meditate and I am using it as a substitute for that. After service what you do…meditate again and meditation will be easier. If you run away form responsibility that changes you and will not leave you…attachment chases you…their mind are being drawn to same attachments. Running away is no good…fulfil your responsibility but with little change. Change is…instead of saying I am doing this…throw the burden to the master…master is doing it…let him handle it. You become the inspector of your own actions and responsibilities. Its like saying I leave everything to God. One doesn’t shun from responsibility but you shift the ownership to a higher power. Therefore when mind comes in between to make choices…these issues come up everyday in our life. How do we handle them? Do we go with mind or God’s (spiritual) will? This question was put to Rumi. He says how do we know what’s God’s will. How do we differentiate between wills? He said very simply…if a spade is in your hand…dig…if a pen… write… circumstance in your life…do it…follow the circumstances around you and what should be done.

Use intuition placed inside us and coincidences outside..they always match.

Ishwar Puri Ji

The more you live you life with humility…more your meditation succeeds by putting ego in the right place which is back of your head.

Ishwar Puri Ji

51min- Coindences are great to help us make decisions. Master Ji shared a goofy story of a friend who somehow developed new intuitive skills. External coincidences are merely events happening against the law of probability. I am sharing these things with you not because I want to teach you anything new but because I have gone through this process of doubts, scepticism and at my age I am not looking forward to something but look back…in November I will be 89…with these experiences, I am sharing with you to jump-start your own spiritual journeys โค I would like to answer few questions. Samadhi is a state of becoming unaware of our body..they are of several types. Its not necessarily meaning going into higher level of awareness. Meditating below the 6th centre they go into samadhi at different levels. Many go into Kundalini, the heart chakra. These are different floors of a house with spine functions like an elevator. When you have these samadhis you can have out-of-body experiences. Sleeping is the best type of samadhi which is at the throat centre as we become unaware of this body. We can go further down and forget all our dreams when we wake up. Focal point of wakeful consciousness is behind the eyes at the 3rd eye centre. It devices the energy centre from spiritual centres. Energy and awareness are not the same thing. Master Ji talked about the 4th petal lotus. Number of centres are much larger…that requires deeper and deeper pulling of awareness in our body. If you are using withdrawal of attention you are performing samadhi of awareness which I call dying while living. Out of body experiences are energy samadhi. How can we the authenticity of what one experiences is mental happening or false…when we go to sleep…we wake up in the morning what is the proof that you are awake? Have you ever tested it out? Wakefulness is change of level that was less to more. When you have experience of true wakefulness it carriers its own authenticity. Do you authenticate you exist, no. When we wake up in the morning how are we sure we have woken up…eyes are closed but still lying in the bed but you know you are awake. What has given you that sudden feeling from a sleep state to a wakeful state…you remember that you slept…the memory of going to sleep connects you to the experience of wakefulness. Similarly when you are at a higher level memory kicks in and it carries its own authentication. But if they are not of totally wakeful and see beautiful waterfalls….you do get these experiences they are nice but not wakeful. At the astral plane, you will connect yourself to that and that carries its own authenticity. Master Ji talked about drishti and Darshan. When you see the face of a PLM even once you are guaranteed to be a seeker to back to true home. A story is told of Narad Muni.

1hr5min- Narad Muni worshipped Brahma. Really fun story with Mr. Snake, Mr. Parrot and Mr. Baby…with a very valuable message at the end of the story for valuable of darshan and drishti โค When you have a darshan of a guru there is great benefit of looking at the guru…but drishti is not when you look at the guru but the guru looks at you…benefit of these things is realising when suddenly seeking starts in you. Somebody said you talk of marked soul/ sheep, which takes place in our true home where there is no time and space. When there is no time it’s ever lasting now. There is no difference from there but from here. Drishti marks you from inception…you are marked from the beginning but experience is taking place in the physical world. You can marked in category A or B. List A means you have to go back in this very life…no more coming where you create new karma. Or you can be marked for List B you are not ready for that as yet but in the next few lives you can go. When these masters come they are continuously marking people and A they take back in the same life. Master Ji talked about Radha Swami Ji…who said you cannot have more than 4 lives if you are accepted by the master. He described the 4 lives. Master Ji talked about his father. I remained a sceptic for many years. My father a follower of GM heard one day GM quoting these 4 lives…he missed that satsangh…evening he met GM and asked is that true? GM said why are you worried this is your last life…my father said suppose I want to come 5 times…GM explained when we talk of 4 lives doesn’t mean all have to go through it. Thank you very much for joining me โค

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