Spiritual Path Is Not Religion | Ask Your Master For Help to Move Forward | Ishwar Puri (Part 2 of 5)

London, Part 2 of 5

Video Description: He welcome everyone and happy to be in London and to meet all the attendees. The purpose of him visiting there was to share his experience of meeting a PLM in form of GM. He doesn’t like to use the word impossible but used it to emphasize the value of PLM in one’s life ❤ Controlling mind is so difficult…how can we use the mind to control the mind! We do not get out of the mental activity…that is only way to learn anything and are hence confined to the mind and have no chance of discovering who we are…we begin to identity ourselves with our mind and we began to loose distinction our true-self from the mind. We do not realise mind is NOT the self…self is pure consciousness…pure power to be conscious to be aware of anything that is our power our self. Mind is no better than an efficient computer but we mistaken to identify it with us. We get trapped in time and space according to the law of cause and effect…we call it karma/ destiny/ faith and get trapped into it. We believe what the clock and watches are telling us. He used goofy example of meditation for 10 minutes feels like 2 hours and enjoying a party for 2 hours feel like 10 minutes to our mind LOL. We are wearing several costumes on our soul. Time is flowing in one direction…we cannot stop it.

6min- Withdrawing of attention can help us experience our astral self. In Astral plane the language is based on the MEANING of what language we have been using here…its an unspoken kind of language we can therefore communicate much easily with people. One of the main feature of astral plane time is we can HOLD time there! But still time there moves in one direction but when we leave that body which is also a cover to the mind level (causal body)…when we reach that level we can not only stop time we can move on time on both sides! That’s the first time we realise we can move on time see past, future lives and how those lives are constructed. They are all traps! Even when we find somebody who has gone beyond the mind…which we call the PLM…PLM is not he should be educated or belong to certain group/ religion etc. A PLM is one who has gone beyond the mind…he could be totally illiterate…definition is he should be away from trap of minds and help us on the path. Somebody can be equally enlightened (Gurmukhs) they are not required to perform functions of a PLM. PLM part of his work on physical world is to take back marked souls.

12min- He talked about marked souls…whatever the story might be without help of a PLM who has gone beyond level of mind it is not possible to escape from here. When a PLM comes, how does he take us? If he gave us teachings…he would be helping our minds…all learning is done by the mind. A teacher is different from a PLM…he does not teach. Sometimes he pretends to teach because our mind wants to learn but after a while we find its not a path of teaching…soul does not need teaching…we don’t need any teaching. Therefore, a teaching we get from master is only for the sake of our mind and all disciplines are for our mind…we have trained ourselves unless we struggle we won’t get anything. So Masters say work hard do meditation etc. they setup several rituals because our mind is not satisfied. If they tell us its not a mental activity at all its purely a spiritual path we don’t understand it. Soul just wants to love and go home. The masters temporarily becomes teachers to train our mind to understand teaching will not take us anywhere what takes us beyond mind is…love, beauty and joy ❤ When we see parts we seeing with mind but when we see whole we are seeing via the soul. The ability to see the whole belongs to the soul; analysis to break up belongs to mind. By identifying our-self with the mind we lot ability to see via soul. A PLM pulls us via power of Love….we fall in love with him and that love pulls us. Love & Devotion is all that’s needed to cross the mind. Crossing the 3 regions we need learning and teaching. If there is no love and devotion there is no spirituality. People have been doing meditation with eyes closed in steady positions getting nothing at all because they thought its a mechanical exercise. A meditation without love and devotion has no value and it traps us further and we get tied up to ritual part only…it distracts us from worldly activities it has some limited purpose…but it doesn’t take us anywhere. Religion converts spirituality into ritual. Spiritual is not a religion it belongs to all religion and makes no distinction between one religion or person to another.

21min- He talked about Harvard university, he studied course on religion to see how many religions in this world and he thought something must be common in all religions. The truth lies inside us not outside…only common thing he found was our religion was only authentic one.

22min- Mind divides soul units. Mind tries to divide…today we feel separated from our own self. If time and space disappears we will all be in our true home. We are still operating in the same place with covers upon us. We are at home but just not aware of it! It has not to go anywhere but to STOP going anywhere…we are at home but unaware of it. Spiritual path is a path of discovery of our own self. Journey consist of staying where we are. How we can take these ‘covers’ off is secret of meditation. These covers are hiding our true self…taking them off one by one. He talked about dying while living. The longer we concentrate on the 3rd eye…the more we get away from awareness of our body. This ability we can sit in a physical body and also withdraw the attention and unaware of the body is secret of meditation. We find another body that can move out, go out of this physical body via meditation. We have inner body that has eyes that can see much more clearly as our physical eyes, hearing is excellent with that body…all senses are working at high efficiency comparison to our physical body and yet is inside our physical body…this body’s sense perception are working because of that body! When we leave this body…we can see, hear, fly much better, no need to go on diet pills…this is a great experience. We are more than the physical body is in itself amazing experience to be aware of! He talked about experiencing this via withdrawal of attention.

31min- Fact we can with one process by withdrawal of our own awareness and attention to a point from where its originating from to reverse the flow we can have all these experience right to our true home. Its a special feature gifted to us by the creator to all of us ❤ Many are called few are chosen…PLM come in our form as ordinary human being with ordinary mind, body and have no difference than us. They are exactly like us. They eat food and get sick in the way…they do sh sh sh same way (hehehe). Their path is not based on showing miraculous things but to draw us in love…their method is love. Why do they come such a way? Because they want to be our friends ❤ If we can’t be a friend with them…how can we go back home? They must come like ourselves. Human spirit is based on love and compassion and not on thinking and analyzing. Therefore masters comes in same form as we are…and they will go to the level to match level of the marked souls for whom they have come.

35min- He shared a story about judge in GM days Daryai Lal Kapoor, who wanted to be a doorman for Sawan Singh Ji ❤ He enjoyed that seva to the master…but he realized he missed out on meditation as he was standing always outside the door and wanted to catch up the lost time and asked for keys of GM’s home in Dalhousie. GM gave keys immediately and DLK was happy he will stay in home with vibration of GM’s in his home ❤ The funny story with a beautiful underlying message. It is not the mental effort that makes…what helps us to go within is love and devotion.

Real key is how much love and devotion we can pour into our meditation. If we have found a master with unconditional love…if we have experience that put that feeling into the meditation. Importance of love and devotion he cannot emphasis.

Ishwar Puri Ji

Of course we practice different kinds of meditation focused on six energy centers below the eyes. When we put anywhere other than behind the eyes…we are focusing the attention where w are use to…but when we are withdrawal the attention we are not used to that ❤

41min- Everything below the eye level deal with energy…everything behind eyes deals with AWARENESS! People who have done meditation on these centers before (energy) its hard to switch back. as tendency to go back down is strong. He talked about pranayama (Pran means life). Breathing was associated with life of the body…whole of life was constitutes by consciousness. Pranayama was meant to control the life-force. Yoga is merely a physical exercise. When we are talking of self-realization we are talking of much deeper subject than merely feeling calm…people get drugs, alcohol but it does not leads to discovery of self…one has to withdraw attention to the self and that is important. He talked about Kundalini at 46min. The six chakras of energy have often kept seekers of spirituality down at the energy level! Just be careful we don’t mix up energy with awareness! There are more than 6 centers.

48min- He talked about a story of his aunt and uncle and their Swami Brahmanand in Karachi as they went from Dera to Lahore to Karachi. Swamiji was practicing six centers and was also good ayurveda. Baba Ji was also practicing homeopathy medicines and they both used to compare notes. Swami Brahmanand so happy being felt trapped with…LOVE! ❤ ❤ ❤ Books are so much contradictions and can’t get what we can get from the inside. Books are talking of things at different level of consciousness. When we actually have experience in meditation there is no contraction. A Master customizes plan for us…its not same plan for everybody…he can deal with seeker according to seekers needs at that stage in his/her life.

58min- He shared story of his grandma (mother’s mother) who was a great God and Goddesses believer. PLM loves us if we love, hate or kill him…he loves us unconditionally. That’s what pulls us more than anything else. He talked about 1hr 3min a story of GM Sawan Singh and a Sikh community in Rawalpindi, where the Sikhs were unhappy with GM…beautiful story in how it ended with Love ❤ GM bowed his head to the Sri Guru Granth Sahib ❤ Beautiful story ❤ He talked about Jo Mange Thakur song at 1hr 6min ❤

1hr8min- He talked about religions, it has confined us to small groups. He talked about ‘The Word” from the Bible given in the dictionary. Spirituality treats all as one because practice of spirituality knows we are ONE. He talked about having a live meditation session. Way to our true home where we belong…lies inside us and it can be accessed by us by going within…first thing is where to put the attention…that place is right behind the eyes…how do we withdraw attention there. Body of ours is made of house and we are on the 6th floor behind the eyes…by this we mean there is a house of ours and we are on the 6th floor behind the eyes…we are going to stay there and stay in the middle of the floor…we will not move down below the eyes and imagine we are there. That center is called the 3rd eye center, its the eyes that actually sees! Deeper meditation as we go along…withdrawal of attention we have to rub our arms, legs and face.

1hr 13min- The secret is not to force our-self to be there…not to start picturing sitting there…the one watching the image is us…its merely an imagination that we are there. Don’t put pressure on the eyes…just have to be behind the eyes…it is a question of putting attention there rather than anything else. He talked about his cute orange juice experiment. He explained importance of this exercise and meditation not starting from the 3rd eye center will keep attention scattered. Thoughts during meditation takes us outside…it is the nature of the mind…therefore this can be prevented via a method…that is….to feed the mind the words and repeat those words all the time so it cannot think of anything else its called simran/ mantra/ jaap. If mind forgets something try meditation and go back to that. The resistance of the mind comes when we try to stabilize it/ focus it where we belong and sitting behind the eyes. The repeating of words is there to squeeze out mind thoughts and deliberately make mind repeat those simran/mantra/ jaap. Don’t do this with mouth but with the mind. He talked about Kabir explaining about simran and mind roaming around outside world.

We have to listen to what we are speaking. Repetition is always done by the mind…thoughts are produced by the mind…listening is always done by the soul. Listening is spiritual…speaking is mental.

Ishwar Puri Ji

1hr28min- Without listening we are repeating like parrot. Express love for the beloved ❤ We can increase volume of our mind if we like but revert your attention to what we are repeating. Imagine behind the eyes and start repeating the worlds slow and listening to every syllable of the word we are repeating..welcome back ❤ There was a question and answer session around 1hr30min. Life moves in a cycle…which goes up and down…all life moves like that…biorhythm of body…they are physical, mental and also spiritual rhythm…this effects our concentration. Its a normal thing we should chose times when its easy to do it. The energy is necessary to sustain us even to experiment with consciousness/ awareness. Its working in our 6 chakras autonomously. Something we do by instruction but all energy centers are acting automatically. The experience of not being aware of ourselves is a very thin line between withdrawal of attention of body and being unaware of going to sleep. Sleeping is a very strong tendency during meditation and he talked about how important is to be awake to meditate an after a while he felt he was snoring himself 🙂 He joked about insomnia being a treatment via meditation.

1hr35min- Withdrawal of attention helps us open another body and gives us many experiences. We can put our awareness behind the eyes…it open up floor of energy or it can be merely withdrawal attention from the body having energy of lower chakra accumulating upwards. The physical body hurts to distract us from being there…its a mental game…we can sit in one position chat with friends for couple of hours body does not hurt…but meditation it hurts! Difference is its a distraction from concentration behind the eyes. Mind will oppose any effort to yourself away from the mind. If we can give something attractive to the mind as a bribe to the mind…it will work for you. It must find some pleasure to go along…its seeking all pleasures outside. Practice is very important…for short period of time on daily is daily is better than long practice once a week as its the accumulation helps on daily basis. Practice will help us overcome our issues and we get used to it. He talked about story of 1hr39min of a king who was a sharp shooter and his wife who messaged practice one can do anything 🙂 Recommended time for early morning with least distraction for meditation but with life-style in the West we can pick up anytime which is good in our biorhythm to make good use of that time for meditation. Be practical about it…don’t follow spirituality as exercise or ritual like religious belief. Spiritual path is a practical one. Question master! solve the problem and move on…but if we do this as a religious way…what we do…we go to PLM go to discourse eat nice food…come home…we are making spiritual path into a religion..its a practical path…ask for help and questions…both internally and externally! It would be our own feeling we are not meditating properly…if we are doing our best and its not working then…ask! Don’t take it as blind-faith. We make small progress…which is better than quick progress as quick progress people feeling dying they get so scared they don’t meditate…therefore best to make slow practice…eventually we will feel comfortable about leaving the body…its like dying while living. Take baby steps…that will work much better because in many cases people become impatience…I want to get it right now! Well…doing so we will be thrown off our feet but when we learn gradually it works much better. He expressed gratitude to the hosts by an applaud at the end of the discourse.

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